tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post3313971721940359132..comments2024-03-03T16:35:25.083-05:00Comments on Marian's Roots and Rambles: What is Causing Your Brick Wall?Marianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04738104230962644360noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-3226489818480389792012-02-21T06:26:15.866-05:002012-02-21T06:26:15.866-05:00There are no records on my gggrandmother, born in ...There are no records on my gggrandmother, born in NY or VT around 1818, named Sarah King. The only way I have even her last name is on her children's death records. No marriage records, nothing until the 1850 census, by which time she had 8 kids. This was in western NY state. <br />Her husband's parents are also a brick wall.Kathleen Baxterhttp://www.kathleenbaxter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-87367181403476276702012-02-19T22:09:06.865-05:002012-02-19T22:09:06.865-05:00Male names that are too common: James Duncan, Jose...Male names that are too common: James Duncan, Joseph Murphy, William Hutchison - and they all have wives with the same names!<br />Also, female ancestors from 1850-1880 that have nothing indicating their maiden name or parent's names. <br />I'm sure if I could travel about wherever/whenever I needed I could eventually break the brick walls!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-6712537072795378972012-02-19T22:01:32.917-05:002012-02-19T22:01:32.917-05:00My brick walls are mostly from too common names: J...My brick walls are mostly from too common names: James Duncan, James Murphy, William Hutchison. What's worse is their wives have the same names as well. My other brick walls are from female ancestors from 1860-1880 - not being able to figure out the maiden name. <br />Also, if I was free to travel about whenever and wherever I wanted I'm sure I would break some of those brick walls!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-68741298653053565882012-02-19T03:48:10.268-05:002012-02-19T03:48:10.268-05:00I have been playing around with the genealogy of A...I have been playing around with the genealogy of Augustine McCarty for about 14 yrs, life has interferred with my progress and no one has found definite connections to any of the McCartys that were in Bath Co. at that time. I live in a county next to Bath County and as soon as some things get settled here would like to get to the court house and see if something has been overlooked by others. I am connected to Augustine thru three of his children. The answer has to e somewhere and with Elizabeth living as close as she did to him in the 1810 census, I would assume a connection between the two of them.Deborah Waltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-80711160777786938152012-02-16T00:02:14.899-05:002012-02-16T00:02:14.899-05:00It's fun - and somewhat reassuring - to read e...It's fun - and somewhat reassuring - to read everyone's brick wall.Mine is set in Philadelphia 1810 - 1860 , two Shoemakers named Henry Kraft , one from Hanover - the other from Wurttemburg , and plus , they each had a wife named Barbara , and a daughter that married men with the last name Simpson ......Magdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01335449359566720836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-60517686186454991262012-02-15T15:44:26.716-05:002012-02-15T15:44:26.716-05:00Marian, such a wonderful webinar! I am always amaz...Marian, such a wonderful webinar! I am always amazed at how much I learn and the new information you present! Even information I know is presented in an interesting, fun way. Enjoyed your webinar very much! Thank you for doing them!my Heritage Happenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245411628267355846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-14094419988994878262012-02-14T04:04:59.433-05:002012-02-14T04:04:59.433-05:00Another brickwall topic could be that of frequent ...Another brickwall topic could be that of frequent international travellers. Families which have a head whose work takes them and family to a different country every few years. The main problem with these is that records tend to be non-specific, (birthplace ENGLAND, place of marriage BRAZIL) etc. This is particularly frustrating with Census records.Wornpickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01385807983693823298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-28444817982392768402012-02-14T04:04:11.962-05:002012-02-14T04:04:11.962-05:00Another brickwall topic could be that of frequent ...Another brickwall topic could be that of frequent international travellers. Families which have a head whose work takes them and family to a different country every few years. The main problem with these is that records tend to be non-specific, (birthplace ENGLAND, place of marriage BRAZIL) etc. This is particularly frustrating with Census records.Wornpickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01385807983693823298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-2889116453243652292012-02-14T01:43:24.166-05:002012-02-14T01:43:24.166-05:00Looking forward to the webinar. My brickwall is t...Looking forward to the webinar. My brickwall is to find information on my great, great Grandmother, Johannah or Joanna White. She is in the 1870 Census with her husband, 3 year old son and I think her mother, Eliza White,age 50, who was listed as the housekeeper. In this Census she was 23 years old and listed as insane. She was taken to a Asylum sometime in 1870 to 1878. Her husband stated in his Civil War Pension application papers that he had divorced his wife before he married his second wife on October 24, 1878. I went to Madison County Courthouse in Wampsville, New York to look for records and they told me that I couldn't see the records because of Privacy Laws. I know that her maiden name was White but as there are many Whites in the area at this time I am unable to find which ones are her parents. I am also unable to find a death certificate because I am not sure where to look as she was taken away to a hospital for the insane and I haven't a clue as to when she died. This was kept very quiet in the family until I started doing my family tree and found the information on the census records. I questioned my grandmother and she admitted that Johannah was put into a hospital but did not remember what one.PJ Herdmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-71782196503821596912012-02-13T16:59:08.348-05:002012-02-13T16:59:08.348-05:00Almost all of the above; no problems with misspell...Almost all of the above; no problems with misspellings - how many ways can JONES, BROWN, GREEN, LONG be spelled? If I could find proof that Hudson WEB(B)ER 1811 - 1850+ was the son of Chandler WEBBER - Madison County, New York it would be wonderful.Janice EHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07242106462342063348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-25068043916332625682012-02-13T16:47:15.961-05:002012-02-13T16:47:15.961-05:00I once wrote a whole series of blog postings on wh...I once wrote a whole series of blog postings on why people have brick walls. They are still on my blog at Slovak Yankee.<br /><br />I would like to see an advanced class. That means someone's brick wall is there after all the known genealogical research has been done. No tax, probate, deeds, military, census, church, or whatever records exist. Just nada.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205797878738290997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-45965786835499081372012-02-13T16:37:59.113-05:002012-02-13T16:37:59.113-05:00I have a brick wall, that I have worked on for the...I have a brick wall, that I have worked on for the last 20 year's. I am searching Missouri, trying to find information on my mother's, mother. <br /><br />I have not found her birth, marriage or death certificate's!<br /><br />I cannot find my aunt's birth certificate, Helen Lorraine Tuthill born 08/13/1924, to verify my grandmother's name.<br /><br />My mother is Louise Tuthill born 02/28/1926. She used the name of Mary Louise Tuthill her entire life. Her birth certificate lists my grandmother as "Cath Tuthill".<br /><br />My grandfather's name was Louis Bernard Tuthill, born in St Louis, Missouri, 01/11/1896 - Died in East St Louis, Illinois, 02/03/1926 <br /><br />I cannot verify where he was buried. Obituary states he was taken to Friedens Cemetery, they have no marker or record. Checked Find-A-Grave.<br /><br />After Grandfathers death, My mother Louise and her sister Helen were raised by his sister, Stella Etta Tuthill. They moved to California in the early 1930's.<br /><br />My mother was told that her mother's name was Pearl Katherine Clark. I have spent the first 19+ year's looking into Clark's in Missouri. <br /><br />Her age was listed as 21 years on my Mother's birth certificate, which would have placed her year of birth abt.1905. Name listed as Cath Tuthill.<br />Family story was that she died of cancer 3mo's after my mother's birth.- that would put date around May,1926.<br /><br />St. Louis,MO City Directory has a Cath Tuthill - Shoe worker listed in 1928.<br /><br />Tuttle/Tuthill lines in America list year of death as 1930.<br /><br />Obit for Louis Tuthill - St Louis Globe Democrat, Microfilm#G-1926-3 (4 Feb 1926) listed her maiden name as Katherine (nee: Coffey) Tuthill.<br /><br />Thank You so much for this webinar!<br />Any suggestion's would be much appreciated!Paula Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05616832928581674981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-26391876967010993012012-02-13T14:49:13.216-05:002012-02-13T14:49:13.216-05:00I’m in two categories: can’t find name of male an...I’m in two categories: can’t find name of male ancestor and civil registration started late.<br />I am searching for the parents of Henry Simmons.<br />According to his obituary, which appeared in the Garden Grove (Iowa) Express: He was born in Goshen, NY on May 11, 1804. At the age of 14 he left home and went to New York City where he remained 38 years chiefly engaged in the mercantile business.<br />In the spring of 1856 he moved to Republic, Ohio.<br /><br />I checked his death record in the huge liber in the county courthouse in Leon, Iowa. It says he was born in Goshen, NY. (Those records there for that time period do not show parent’s names.)<br /><br />According to the family bible, he married Louisa Bloodgood 12 Aug 1835. I have not been able to find a marriage record in printed sources, but they baptized two children at Trinity (Episcopal) Church in NYC. My aunt wrote to Trinity Church and they said they had no records giving the name of Henry’s<br />parents. I found the family in the 1855 state census of NYC. It says he was born in Orange Co.<br /><br />I've checked _Early Records of the Presbyterian Church of Goshen 1767-1885_ and found nothing. Ditto for the Episcopal Church in Goshen.<br /><br />In the 1810 NY census for Orange Co., I found several Simmons families, but none appeared to be in Goshen. Henry had only one son, John. He was probably named for Louisa’s father, especially since he was named John Bloodgood Simmons.<br /><br />I checked Eardeley’s will abstracts on line at NEHGS, but didn’t find any Simmons man in Orange Co. naming a son, Henry, as heir. Also, the printed abstracts of Orange Co. wills didn’t reveal anything. A check of land records by an online acquaintance who lives near Orange Co. didn’t reveal anything.Howard Swainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-90483526010591508912012-02-13T14:18:39.664-05:002012-02-13T14:18:39.664-05:00Barbara, have you tried searching this website, ht...Barbara, have you tried searching this website, http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/<br />for any records in IRE? I found baptismal information for my gg grandfather from the late 1850's. I was not 100% sure it was him until I used its information to track down his death certificate in VT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-51481180556559752612012-02-13T14:08:23.083-05:002012-02-13T14:08:23.083-05:00My mother was born in a homeopathic hospital (for ...My mother was born in a homeopathic hospital (for unwed mothers) in Boston in 1913, and the Parent's names on her birth certificate are "within quotes" with no street addresses - her mom as Manchester, NH and her dad as "VT" - but no luck in finding either of them in 1910 or 1920 census data, so I assume they used made-up names. I think I know her mother's first name and her married name at death in a Concord, NH institution. Any suggestions on how to go about finding more data and verifying it? I have tracked my dad's roots back to early 1500s in England and would like to do the same for mom (both are deceased)Brian Eastmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18004163340671778740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-82462115171030543192012-02-13T13:56:24.179-05:002012-02-13T13:56:24.179-05:00Jesse Wright, b 1730 , Mass married New Gloucester...Jesse Wright, b 1730 , Mass married New Gloucester, Cumberland Co. Maine 1756<br />Death 1784, cousin found marriage record for Cumberland Co. Maine, area was Mass originally. Wife Abby Cook 1739-1784, daughter Hannah Wright b Lewiston Androscoggin Co. Maine 11 March 1781 m Abraham Dorrison Young 26 April 1803 same place Me.<br /><br />Looking for information on Jesse Wright and wife Abby CookSusi's Quarterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722985357289434741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-60036057214524890132012-02-13T13:35:17.889-05:002012-02-13T13:35:17.889-05:00Having a female ancestress Susan Madison purported...Having a female ancestress Susan Madison purportedly born 1818, in MASS, VT, NY all places posted on census. tombstone says 1818 birth died Iowa have data from children down. Found George Madison living near here in 1880 census in Iowa, believe can be younger brother, Found a William Madison one county older which can be older brother.<br /><br />Contacted Mattison Association, posted for 30 years, blogged about this. Expanded research to Saratoga and Washington Co. NY from Rensselaer where she lived in 1845 1850 1855 until moving to MCHenry Co. Ny town of Nunda where boys joined CW. dying in Iowa in 1881. Marriage not located but have husband and his lineage.Susi's Quarterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722985357289434741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-74060148143771940722012-02-13T12:38:04.518-05:002012-02-13T12:38:04.518-05:00I have two brick walls both in mid 1700s New Engla...I have two brick walls both in mid 1700s New England. One is a Native woman "raised" by an English minister in CT. I'd like to know who her parents were. The other is a man of color who appears suddenly in 1750s Upton, MA. The first Toney that I know of. I'd like to know his background as well.Cheryll Toney Holleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01670750533120443409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-42529888900161033722012-02-13T10:56:15.393-05:002012-02-13T10:56:15.393-05:00I can't find the parents of a male ancestor, w...I can't find the parents of a male ancestor, where he came from or when he came over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-21560260552419275852012-02-13T10:07:09.166-05:002012-02-13T10:07:09.166-05:00On my biggest brick wall, I would answer something...On my biggest brick wall, I would answer something else. He died young at age 35 and just didn't have time to get an established record trail. To complicate matters, he is an immigrant with a very common name and due to his moving around, missed taking part of a census in 1870. So other than a gravestone, death notice information from his children, and one census record in 1880, I have little information on him.<br /><br />All my other brick walls are mostly geographic in nature meaning it will take a visit to the area of their births to look at non web transcribed records to knock down the brick walls.<br /><br />I am signed up for Wednesday's seminar. I'm looking forward to it.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214319366049620074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-37544921420143887812012-02-13T10:00:10.971-05:002012-02-13T10:00:10.971-05:00The main brick wall I am working on right now is t...The main brick wall I am working on right now is trying to verify the parents of my gr grandmother (Sealy Elizabeth Autrey Sample 1859-1907). I believe I know who they are but have found no proof. She just appeared when she married my gr grandfather. Some sources have him married to another sister of the family I believe is hers but ages and dates don't match. I'm coming to the conclusion that she was actually an alien sent to earth to study humans and just took her name from a family in the area.Daniel Samplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02909350774107284090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-17187104167233051492012-02-13T08:56:36.651-05:002012-02-13T08:56:36.651-05:00I've hit a brick wall with my great great gran...I've hit a brick wall with my great great grandfather. He may have emigrated here between 1847-1850. Can't find any record of how he got here. He was from Bavaria, Prussia, or Germany depending which census. His parents were listed on his death certificate as Zang and Zang, no first names, no maiden name. So I guess he swam from Germany with one child under his arm and his wife on his back.Clare Turncliff Gunningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-64026628415170401552012-02-13T00:52:32.748-05:002012-02-13T00:52:32.748-05:00Almost all of the above, Marian :) The tantalizing...Almost all of the above, Marian :) The tantalizing ones are where you have likely candidates for parents, but no documental proof, because of burnt courthouses (I've got a few of those), or a very common name (I've one or two like that, too). There's one family I have with an uncommon name that's so wildly and frequently misspelled it becomes laughable at times.<br /><br />My pet peeve is internet family trees that supposedly solved the brick walls I'm at, that turn out to be by nothing more than wishful thinking trees, with nothing substantial to support it (usually only a DAR or SAR application). Unfortunately, this information has found its way into countless other trees, including false evidence to back it up.Tacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04059717877562427778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-91203304736000937672012-02-12T23:43:47.838-05:002012-02-12T23:43:47.838-05:00I'm looking forward to both webinars. Two of m...I'm looking forward to both webinars. Two of my brick walls have something in common: both women re-married and moved from England to Canada. The first is my 3rd great-grandmother, Elizabeth Brown, formerly Starr, née Giles, who married, was widowed, re-married, had 2 kids and then moved to Canada all in between English Census years (1851 and 1861). Two of her children were born in England but the others were born in Canada before civil registration began. It's been hard to find her maiden name in Canadian records. (http://staceywaspe.tumblr.com/post/4311357203/the-challenge-of-elizabeth-giles)<br /><br />The 2nd is my husband's great-grandmother, Annie Louise Fradgley née Brown, who abandoned her first husband in England, came to Canada and raised a family 'out of wedlock' for several years. Only after her first husband died did she return to England to formally tie the knot with the father of her children -- I'm guessing because it would cause less speculation than marrying in Canada where they had been living as husband and wife for years. Finding evidence of both her and her 2nd husband's original trip to Canada (either separate or together) is proving challenging, as I'm not certain what name she was traveling under or what year she left England. Also, it seems the date/place of their marriage is not consistently stated in each birth registration for their children.<br /><br />Of course having the surname "Brown" in both cases, it's hard to prove I've found the "right" Brown, especially with helpful first names like George, Henry and my favourite, Charlie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691016683378293851.post-26362055595243182882012-02-12T23:15:43.270-05:002012-02-12T23:15:43.270-05:00Eastern Kentucky, 1810. My 5th great grandmother, ...Eastern Kentucky, 1810. My 5th great grandmother, Elizabeth McCarty, widow {head of household} on 1810 Bath Co., KY. census with her 7 children. In 1811 she marries William Costigan in Bath. In 1823,her daughter, Leah, marries Jeremiah Powers. Her name is written as Leah Costigan, Costigan crossed out and McCarty written above, William Costigan was bondsman. Don't know who Mr. McCarty is or Elizabeth's maiden name or where they were in 1800. Leah says on 1880 her parents born in KY. and her half-sister, Nancy Costigan Hart says her mother was born in KY. on the 1900, but Elizabeth was born in the 1770's. Mr. McCarty died sometime after Leah's birth in 1805 and before 1810 census {there were 3 m and 2 F under 10 on the 1810} I do not know who any of Leah's siblings were, as most people have all the McCarty's assigned to an Augustine McCarty who also lived in Bath and was not married to an Elizabeth. One thing I have not done is look at the actual marriage records of McCarty children {besides Leah} after 1811, to see if William Costigan was bondsman.Janeenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14694386378590367343noreply@blogger.com